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Derek, very nice to meet you, sir.

Nice to meet you as well.

Thank you for doing this.

I really appreciate it.

Tell everybody what you do.

Tell everybody what your official position is. You're a professor at the School of Medicine at Stanford. What do you do?

So my day job is in cancer research and cancer biology, mostly immunology and cancer. Much of what my laboratory does is not so much the biology of cancer, but the developing

instruments that create the data that allow us to analyze the complexities of how the immune

system interfaces with tumors and how tumors basically reenable the immune system to help

the cancer itself.

So the problem has been we don't have the ability to collect enough data or not until recently to collect and understand what all of that means. So we've

been kind of poking in the dark for decades. And so probably for the last 20 years, I've developed

a number of instruments and turned them into companies that allow everybody to access a level of information they couldn't get before.

So explain that.

The immune system allows the tumors.

So what happens is that there's sort of a, there's a dance between the mutations that initiate a tumor and then sort of an evolution of how the tumor eventually learns how to trick the immune system to not recognize it.

So we have all kinds of internal.

I mean, literally every day, every person,

you'll develop five cancer-like objects inside of your body. But the immune system and your

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