#2385 - Rick Strassman

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan

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4.6 • 228.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 191 minutes

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Rick Strassman, MD, is a Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the University of New Mexico School of Medicine. He is the author of several books, the most recent of which is 2024's "My Altered States: A Doctor's Extraordinary Account of Trauma, Psychedelics, and Spiritual Growth."www.rickstrassman.com Buy 1 Get 1 Free Trucker Hat with code ROGAN at https://happydad.com Visit https://WildPastures.com/rogan today to get 20% off for life, plus $15 off your first box. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Joe Rogan podcast, checking out.
0:04.0	The Joe Rogan Experience.
0:06.1	Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
0:12.8	This is a book I wrote 11 years ago.
0:15.9	Oh, okay.
0:16.5	I haven't gotten that one before.
0:18.7	Yeah.
0:19.6	It compares, well, let's see, are we going to...
0:21.9	We're up. Yeah. Yeah, it compares the DMT state to the state of prophecy in the Hebrew Bible.
0:30.5	Do you think they're the same thing? Well, the phenomenology is pretty similar. Like, if you read chapter one of Ezekiel, there's flames and there's angels and there's wings
0:42.6	and there's eyes on the back of wings and there's roaring sound and blue ice above the person
0:49.9	he flies through space.
0:51.4	Yeah, quite psychedelic.
0:53.8	Yeah, wheel within a wheel. Like the description
0:56.7	of the things that people, usually they try to say that it's some sort of a UAP. That's the common
1:03.6	thing that people like to say, right? Well, it could be. Which also might be connected.
1:09.1	It could be a DMT vision, though.
1:12.0	Oh, easily.
1:12.5	Yeah.
1:18.2	Well, you know the guys out of Jerusalem that think that the whole burning bush thing was DMT.
1:19.3	Yeah.
1:22.3	Well, that was the first theophony of Moses.
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