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A Consequential Supreme Court Term Begins With a Conversion Therapy Case

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Warning: this episode contains mentions of suicide. In one of the first cases of the Supreme Court’s new term, the justices considered whether to strike down a ban on conversion therapy, the contentious practice that aims to change a young person’s sexual orientation. Ann E. Marimow, Supreme Court correspondent for The New York Times, talks us through the case.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Natalie Kittrow.

0:04.2

This is the Daily.

0:10.9

The Supreme Court began a new term this week, one where the justices will weigh in on issues of presidential power and on the most consequential culture war battles in America.

0:23.4

In one of the first cases, the court considered whether to strike down a ban on conversion

0:29.2

therapy, the controversial practice aimed at changing someone's sexual orientation.

0:35.4

Today, my colleague Anne Marimo walks us through that case. It's Thursday,

0:43.7

October 9th.

0:50.8

Anne, welcome to The Daily, first time on the show as our new Supreme Court correspondent.

0:57.1

Thank you. I'm really happy to be here.

0:59.0

I'm really excited to talk to you because we are at the start of a new Supreme Court term.

1:04.0

And it's one I think a lot of us have been anticipating and waiting for because the court is going to be ruling on a number of big

1:12.7

questions. We know that there are big questions related to the Trump administration,

1:17.1

among all these other cases on the docket. So I want to ask how you weigh the importance of the

1:23.8

cases that are before the court right now. Yeah. So as you said, it's a huge term. The Trump

1:29.8

administration's agenda is really going to dominate a lot of the docket. Right. Already we have in

1:34.8

November the case about Trump's sweeping tariffs. They're going to look at whether the president

1:39.7

has the power to fire independent government regulators who are supposed to be protected by Congress.

1:46.0

And then in January, they're going to look at, does the president have the authority to fire

1:49.9

a governor of the independent Federal Reserve Board? Right. So some pretty big questions about what

1:55.4

Trump can and can't do. Exactly. But there are also all of these other cases that will have critical impact on the

2:02.9

lives of Americans that are as important and that we're also watching this term. The court's going to

2:08.6

look at the rights of transgender athletes to participate in girls and women's sports, the religious

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