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You got me thinking about this concept of happiness as you're speaking,

and whether it's a natural thing for our species to be aiming at,

or whether it's a new, more modern thing that we've decided to focus upon.

And are we causing ourselves immense distress in this pursuit of this thing that maybe our ancestors didn't, didn't ever think about this whole,

you know, we think about self-actualization and they were probably thinking about survival and

reproduction more? Look, these all belong to the sort of paradoxes of modern times. Modern times

have obviously brought us enormous

advantages, but they've also brought us particular complexities that I think would be wise to

realize. And one of them is the disappearance of religion. I mean, we are still among the first

generations in many parts of the world to be trying to live good lives without the support of

religion. Think of our religion's structure

time and human experience in time. As a religious person, you immediately feel the present

moment is not as important as 100, 200, 2,000 million year history that has come before and that will continue after.

The present moment is a speck in time and there's a whole narrative of which you're part of.

That immediately diminishes you in scale.

Now, nowadays, all of us want to be rather large.

We want to be big people.

We want to make a big impression.

But arguably, this is a fast route to mental illness, because the graceful acceptance of your

minuscule position in the cosmos is the gateway to calm and harmony. And when people say,

you know, I went into this hotel, you know,

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