The Peace Summit in Egypt, and Shutdown Lessons From U.S.A.I.D.

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🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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After the exchange of Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners, President Trump took a victory lap to Jerusalem before going on to a peace summit in Egypt. David E. Sanger, who is covering Mr. Trump’s trip, discusses some takeaways. We also hear from the Times reporter Christopher Flavelle about how the U.S. government shutdown has given the Trump administration an extraordinary amount of power over dozens of agencies.

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0:00.0	It's Rachel in Tel Aviv. Before we get to the rest of today's show, here's an update from the Middle East.
0:07.0	On Monday, after Hamas returned 20 living hostages from Gaza, Israel began releasing nearly 2,000 Palestinian prisoners back to Gaza and the West Bank.
0:20.0	Large crowds gathered near Nassar Hospital in Khan Yunus, where released Palestinian prisoners
0:25.6	were taken.
0:28.2	Good afternoon.
0:29.8	Good evening.
0:30.8	Hi, Mustafa.
0:31.8	It's nice to hear your voice.
0:33.4	I talked to Mustafa Abutaha, an English teacher in Gaza I've been in touch with since the start of the war.
0:39.3	Mustafa, can you describe the scene when the Palestinian prisoners returned?
0:44.0	What did it look like outside?
0:46.1	He was there amongst the crowd.
0:49.5	This is, I would say, the biggest, the largest, the most enormous, a crowd I have ever seen in my life in
0:57.5	Gaza. I had seen mountains of people. So, you know, words are not enough to the cry how people,
1:05.6	you know, are feeling so amazed. And all of them is not waving, shouting, dancing. I danced and I sang a song.
1:14.5	What did you sing, Mustafa?
1:16.2	Freedom is back. Freedom is back.
1:19.6	Walla, I'm l'uhaeluha to the rjal.
1:24.7	After two years of devastation, destruction, mass killing, the war has come to an end.
1:30.8	We want peace to prevent.
1:33.1	You said that the war has come to an end, Mustafa, but there are so many details to be worked out yet.
1:38.2	So I'm just wondering how confident and optimistic you feel about that.
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