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Trump Defends Saudi Prince, Epstein Bill Passes, Trump Low Approval Rating

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🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

President Trump defends Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman during a White House visit, even as the two leaders unveil sweeping military, nuclear, and investment agreements.
Congress overwhelmingly passes a bill compelling the Justice Department to release its Epstein files, setting up a 30-day countdown that could spark new political fights over redactions.
And a new NPR/PBS News/Marist poll shows Trump at his lowest approval rating of his second term, with voters demanding that he focus on lowering prices as Democrats gain a significant edge heading into 2026.

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0:00.0

President Trump defended the crown prince of Saudi Arabia when asked about the murder of journalist Jamel Khashoggi.

0:08.6

Whether you like him or didn't like him, things happened, but he knew nothing about it.

0:13.1

That moment overshadowed a day of billion-dollar agreements.

0:16.2

I'm Leila Faudil with A. Martinez, and this is up first from NPR News.

0:22.2

Congress passed a bill to force the release of the Epstein files.

0:26.4

Trump says he will sign it, but one survivor criticized his earlier efforts to bury the documents.

0:32.2

It is not about you, President Trump.

0:34.8

I voted for you, but your behavior on this issue has been a national embarrassment.

0:40.6

So what comes next and how much will the Justice Department redact?

0:44.2

And a new NPR Maris poll shows major political warning signs for the president.

0:48.6

We'll hear about what the public wants him to focus on.

0:51.3

Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start your day.

1:04.9

Sitting beside Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman in the Oval Office yesterday, President Trump dismissed a question about the 2018 killing of Washington Post journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

1:10.6

You don't have to embarrass our guests by asking a question like that.

1:13.1

U.S. intelligence found that the Saudi Crown Prince approved the operation that led to Khashoggi's dismemberment and killing.

1:22.3

He denies any personal involvement.

1:24.9

The exchange highlights attention with Saudi Arabia an important ally in the

1:29.0

Middle East that stretches beyond the current administration. Here to discuss the visit is NPR

1:34.1

White House correspondent Danielle Kurtzleben. Danielle, that was quite the exchange.

1:39.5

It really was. And to explain it, it started during an Oval Office meeting when a journalist asked the

1:44.8

Crown Prince about Khashoggi and also about 9-11. The journalist noted that there are families of

1:50.0

9-11 victims who were angry that the Prince was visiting, as some believe the Saudi government

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