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The Daily

Trump Sent Them to a Notorious Prison. Torture Followed.

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Warning: This episode mentions suicide. In March, the U.S. government sent more than 200 Venezuelan men to a maximum-security prison in El Salvador. Over four months, the men said they endured physical, mental and sexual abuse. Julie Turkewitz, the Andes bureau chief at The New York Times, interviewed 40 of these prisoners. She explains what she found out about this part of President Trump’s program of mass deportation.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Bobaro.

0:04.6

This is the Daily.

0:09.4

For four months, hundreds of men from Venezuela said they endured physical abuse.

0:16.1

Because there were 20 goals that were.

0:17.8

I'm not mad to have this.

0:30.6

Mental abuse. Welcome to the infield. mental abuse and sexual abuse inside inside a notorious inside a notorious prison.

0:46.0

Today, what my colleague Julie Turkowitz found actually happened inside that prison,

0:56.4

and why many now see it as perhaps the darkest chapter of all in President Trump's program of mass deportation.

1:03.7

It's Monday, December 8th.

1:16.2

Julie, you have spent the past many months investigating the plight of these roughly 200 Venezuelan nationals

1:21.7

who were deported by the Trump administration

1:24.6

from the U.S. to a prison in El Salvador.

1:28.6

And along the way, you have broke story after story about who they are, what they did or didn't do.

1:36.2

And now you bring us your latest investigation.

1:39.4

So tell us what animated that latest probe and what you found.

1:44.5

So I think that so many listeners remember back in March when these 250 or so Venezuelan, when were put on planes to this foreign prison in El Salvador,

1:59.6

accused summarily without trials of being terrorists,

2:05.2

and then in a very, very public way, taken off the planes, bent at the waist, shackled, shaved,

2:15.8

and put in this maximum security prison in El Salvador.

2:20.3

Right. It was the most indelible image in President Trump's mass deportation campaign because

2:25.5

it felt the most unfamiliar and kind of brutal.

2:31.0

Absolutely. And I think that it was meant to send a message.

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