Secret Agent (Evy Poumpouras): Never Be Yourself At Work! Authenticity Is Quietly Sabotaging You! - Evy Poumpouras

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

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Society & Culture, Business, Education

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🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 168 minutes

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Is Authenticity Quietly KILLING Your Career? Former Secret Agent Evy Poumpouras reveals how being “real” at work can SABOTAGE your leadership, and breaks down elite strategies for emotional control, communication, confidence, and power. Evy Poumpouras is a former U.S. Secret Service Special Agent, NBC Crime & Law Enforcement Analyst, and bestselling author of Becoming Bulletproof. She protected U.S. Presidents, interrogated high-risk criminals, and learned first-hand how the world’s most powerful leaders control emotion, command respect, and stay composed under pressure. In this groundbreaking episode, she explains: ◼️The 1 psychology trick that instantly makes people respect you ◼️Why you shouldn’t care about people’s feelings ◼️The 5 habits you must get rid of to earn influence ◼️How to tell if someone is lying to you ◼️Why most people stay miserable forever (00:00) Intro (02:24) Why People Are Drawn to Your Mission (05:23) People Waste Time Overthinking Instead of Changing (09:33) Forget About The Past (12:37) Being Stuck in the Identity You’ve Built (18:59) The Secondary Game: Why People Don’t Overcome Problems (25:10) You Can’t Change People (30:16) How Steve Builds His Confidence (35:44) Stop Being Driven by Fear (38:37) How to Self-Regulate Your Emotions (40:25) Should You Be Your Authentic Self at Work? (49:17) Which Gender Tells Lies Better? (51:27) How to Build Confidence (57:07) Why Small Challenges Matter More Than Big Ones (1:03:08) Lessons From the Best Decision Makers (1:10:25) Ads (1:11:23) Why Your Tone of Voice Matters (1:18:46) The Importance of Body Language (1:38:12) Dealing With Offensive People (1:44:26) How to Become Unprovokable (1:55:36) How Friends Influence Who You Are (1:57:29) Ads (2:03:51) How Poor Performers Impact the Team (2:07:18) Why You Might Look Like an Easy Target (2:20:31) Charlie Kirk and Threats on Social Platforms (2:23:59) How Social Media Reduces Empathy (2:30:44) School and Mass Shootings (2:36:09) Could Anything Have Prevented Charlie Kirk’s Death? (2:41:18) What Are You Most Afraid Of? Follow Evy: Instagram - ⁠https://bit.ly/4aN4q4D⁠ Twitter - ⁠https://bit.ly/4c4TErD⁠ Website: ⁠http://bit.ly/3K89id3⁠ Evy’s BBC Maestro course ‘The Art of Influence’ can be found HERE: ⁠http://bit.ly/4nFGTJT⁠ You can purchase Evy’s book, ‘Becoming Bulletproof’, HERE: ⁠https://amzn.to/46n6cdS⁠ The Diary Of A CEO: ◼️Join DOAC circle here - ⁠https://doaccircle.com/⁠ ◼️Buy The Diary Of A CEO book here - ⁠https://smarturl.it/DOACbook⁠ ◼️The 1% Diary is back - limited time only: ⁠https://bit.ly/3YFbJbt⁠ ◼️The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards (Second Edition): ⁠https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb⁠ ◼️Get email updates - ⁠https://bit.ly/diary-of-a-ceo-yt⁠ ◼️Follow Steven - ⁠https://g2ul0.app.link/gnGqL4IsKKb⁠ Sponsors: Adobe Express - ⁠http://ADOBE.LY/STEVEN⁠ Pipedrive - ⁠http://pipedrive.com/CEO⁠ Plaud - https://www.plaud.ai/pages/steven use DOAC22 for 22% off Note and NotePin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I want to see more of the world, so I need my investments to do the same.
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0:19.3	Find F&C on all major investment platforms. It's smart to start with FNC. Capital at Risk. This FNC Investment Trust advert is approved a distribution by Columbia Threadneed or Management Limited February 2025. Don't bring your authentic self to work. I want your professional self. You can bring your authentic self to Thanksgiving meal with your family if you'd like to. Your authentic self is about who? Me, me, me, me, me. Everything is what's happening to be. What's in it for me? Do you know that you impact other people? You affect other people's lives. You make the work environment easier or more taxing. Can someone learn to be a better self-regulator of their emotions? Yeah. So I've been around
0:54.9	former SEALs, U.S. Secret Service, presidents, and I learned a lot about communication,
1:00.1	reading people, confidence. And I'll share these things. So first of all,
1:03.7	Ebby Pompores is the former U.S. Secret Service agent. From guarding presidents to reading
1:08.3	liars, she now reveals the strategies she used to make anyone respect you, trust you, and give you what you want. I've been around very confident people, and they had a really good circle around them, inner circle. Because if you're exposing yourself to people and environments that are not good for you, that will actually impact your life negatively. You know, I always say, be careful who you try to save. Some people will drown you. And then the other thing I would see President Stu is they were very good at delegating. So they didn't need to know everything because confident people are okay with not knowing all the information. So your brain is like a bathtub. The bathtub can only hold so much water. If you keep watering water in the bathtub, it's going to overflow. That's your
1:44.8	cognitive load. My bathtub only holds the water needs to hold in. And another thing that the Secret Service
1:50.1	taught us is that it's really important to use your hands. Because when people don't see hands,
1:55.0	it's a sign of untrustworthiness. Like you can't trust them. So when you see hands, open hands,
1:59.4	I'm no threat. And then there's communication
2:01.3	skills, manipulation tactics and a strategy to make good decisions. And I will go through them.
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