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The Daily

Senators Unleash on R.F.K. Jr.

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

In an extraordinarily tense showdown on Thursday, senators of both parties confronted Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. over his vaccine policies, his firing of the director of the C.D.C., and the growing list of federal health officials who have resigned in protest of his leadership. Sheryl Gay Stolberg, who covers health policy for The Times, explains what it was like in the room and describes what seems like a turning point in the relationship between Congress and Mr. Kennedy.

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0:00.0

From New York Times, I'm Michael Bobarrow. This is the Daily.

0:09.0

I don't think Robert Kennedy should be within a million miles of this job.

0:13.0

Today, in an extraordinarily tense showdown on Thursday.

0:17.6

You're so wrong on your facts.

0:19.9

You're interrupting me. And, sir, you're a charlatan.

0:22.6

That's what you are.

0:23.6

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., was confronted by senators of both parties.

0:28.6

This is crazy talk.

0:30.6

You're just making stuff up.

0:31.6

To prescribe a vaccine for children, I'm not making things.

0:34.6

Over his vaccine policies, his ouster of the director of the CDC,

0:40.8

and the growing list of federal health officials who have resigned in protest of his leadership.

0:48.0

Everybody is corrupt, but you?

0:51.3

Is that what we're looking at?

0:52.6

I don't think so.

0:53.4

And I think the issue now... I don't even know what you're talking about.

0:56.1

My colleague, Cheryl Gay-Stolberg, was in the room and describes what seems like a turning point in the relationship between Congress and Kennedy.

1:06.6

You are a hazard to the health of the American people.

1:10.8

Can I respond to that, Senator?

1:12.1

No, I'm...

1:13.6

It's Friday, September 5th.

1:24.6

Cheryl, this was a remarkable hearing. Remarkable, I would say, for the level of anger in both directions, witness and senators. Remarkable because of the accusations that were traded and the sheer number of times that people were called liars. And almost all of it stemmed from decisions that the Secretary of Health,

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