From New York Times, I'm Michael Babarro. This is the Daily. Today, over the past few years, members of the Supreme Court's liberal minority have voted over and over again to oppose the court's conservative majority,

offering what might look like a united front of resistance.

But behind the scenes, my colleague Jody Cantor has uncovered growing tensions between those liberal justices over the

best way to fight back.

It's Wednesday, December 10th.

Jody. Jody.

Michael.

Good to have you back in the studio.

Great to be back with you.

You are very well along in a line of reporting that, in my estimation, has pulled back the curtain on the unseen decision-making that goes on among the nine justices of the Supreme Court at a hugely consequential moment for the court.

Yes. We want to understand not only the legal decisions they're making, but we're asking, who are these nine people who hold this much power

and how do they function together as a body? How do they influence one another? How does power flow

inside the Supreme Court? And we're doing it at a time when the court is deciding these major

questions about how much power President Trump will have,

who can he fire, can he go around Congress to defund an agency, can he end birthright citizenship,

what is going to happen to his tariffs program?

The court is literally looking into almost all those questions.

They're determining the contours of his power.

And the liberal justices, who, as you know, are badly outnumbered, see President Trump as a threat

to the constitutional order, and they want to persuade their conservative colleagues

of that point of view.

No simple task.

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